AppleScript vs. JavaScript – Seeking Supporting Documentation

Hello all, I’m looking for solid documentation or references that can help support the case for using AppleScript—especially in combination with other languages it can call—as a more effective solution than JavaScript for our workflow. - I was hoping that somebody might have something already on file? If not, then please disregard.

In short, I work at a large graphic print company that relies heavily on Adobe Creative Cloud, with much of our production handled by outsourced staff. Our executive leadership is currently questioning why we’re tied to Macs and tools like Keyboard Maestro.

What’s being overlooked is the depth and utility of our existing AppleScript infrastructure. Many of these scripts exceed 500 lines and are critical for handling error prevention, user alerts, and various quality control measures. We also use tools like Pashua to create more sophisticated user dialogs. Additionally, many of our AppleScripts incorporate curl, embedded JavaScript, and other utilities, allowing for a highly flexible and powerful automation layer.

The bottom line is that AppleScript has enabled significant gains in efficiency and quality assurance. It also streamlines training for outsourced teams, as the automation eliminates the need for manual processes like referencing lookup charts.

I want to ensure we don’t lose the extensive benefits this setup provides. Any resources, comparisons, or real-world examples that illustrate the strength of AppleScript in creative production environments would be greatly appreciated.

As always, thank you all for the many years of amazing help!
-Jeff

I wrote about over 90 ebooks about AppleScript. It include a lot of sample AppleScript.
It describe how AppleScript reach broader functions on macOS.

https://piyomarusoft.booth.pm

I don’t know same volume books in JavaScript.

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This certainly helps, thank you very much Piyomaru.

Here are some books aboout JavaScript for Automation in both eBook and print that have real world examples, AI integration, tips, tools, more. Aquitaine Programming

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Hi Jeff,
I’m not confident that I fully understood what Jeff was asking, as my English is not very strong.

Unfortunately, I don’t have any solid documentation to share, but I wanted to offer some real-world AppleScript use cases from a DTP (desktop publishing) environment that might help support your case.

Since macOS dropped support for PostScript Type 1 fonts, it’s true that—aside from color management—there’s arguably less reason to insist on Mac-specific workflows. However, AppleScript remains highly valuable in DTP, particularly due to its ability to call other languages and tools. Here are three examples from my own workflow:

1. PDF Handling UI using AppleScript + SwiftDialog + PyMuPDF
Although the interface is in Japanese, this script uses SwiftDialog to offer UI for PDF settings (e.g., open options, password protection), and the processing itself is handled via PyMuPDF.
While Preview.app or PDFKit can apply password protection, this script provides a more tailored solution—and avoids needing to license Acrobat just for that function. With just Xcode or CommandLineTools installed, users can run this without extra software.

2. Automated PDF Analysis and Annotation via Python
Another script analyzes fonts and images inside PDFs, then adds comments/annotations to the file.
Each task—splitting, merging, etc.—is offloaded to dedicated .py scripts, and users just select files to trigger the workflow.
Since pip installation (--user) is built into the AppleScript, even non-technical users can run this setup easily.

I also have a parallel system using Acrobat JavaScript API, where users can swap or modify .py/.js files as needed.

3. Variable Data XML for Illustrator
This AppleScript generates Illustrator-compatible variable data XML from tab-separated values, and is especially useful for name cards, postcards, and other repeat-layout print work.

These are just a few practical cases, but they show how AppleScript’s ability to orchestrate other languages—while keeping things accessible for non-technical users—is still incredibly valuable. I hope this gives some weight to your argument.

Thanks for always being such a helpful presence in the community.

Hello IceFole,

Thank you—what you provided is excellent. It’s not exactly what I was looking for, as it appears to lean more towards the programmer rather than the end user.

I’m looking for examples that support the argument that AppleScript—when combined with other tools—can enable end-user workflows that are unmatched in their integration with desktop and browser applications. It allows for conditional decision-making based on inputs, executes Adobe CC functions, manages macOS file operations, and performs browser UI tasks, and so much more.

In short, AppleScript, in combination with other tools, handles complex “white glove” workflows and business rules, while also covering typical efficiency tasks like saving files with the correct dimensions, resolution, format, and naming. The ultimate goal is to enable new hires to work confidently without needing deep knowledge of every advertiser’s rules, since the scripts guide them and help ensure everything in the layout is correct.

So in conclusion, I’m not sure if anyone else on this forum has had to justify why it’s beneficial—for a large company—to have all their employees using Macs, specifically because of the efficiency and quality control gained through everything AppleScript can achieve.

Perhaps the argument isn’t valid, and users on PCs can achieve everything a robust AppleScript-based workflow can—but I can’t say for sure, as I’ve only worked with Macs and AppleScript. What I do know is that I’ve been consistently impressed with what it has enabled our company to accomplish—particularly in scaling a team of outsourced artists to handle a wide range of products and complex business rules. Without scripting, we’d likely need a team three times the size.

Thanks,
-Jeff

First, even if it’s possible to match the functionality of your existing AppleScript solutions in another language, it will take an absolutely enormous amount of time until the new scripts are fully functional. Probably at least a year.

The loss in productivity - and, therefore, monetary losses - during this time will also be significant.

Plus, you’ll also have to find experienced developers who will have to rewrite all your scripts in a different language. The cost of this is also pretty high.

Your “executive leadership” will have to be prepared to absorb all this financial burden.

Also, most likely, in the leadership there’s one particular person who initiated the questioning of your workflow. You can communicate to this person one way or another that in the end he’ll bear the responsibility for all the expenses and losses, for which he’ll be held accountable by the management. Not to mention that there’s no guarantee that the script rewriting project will even be successful in the end. When people face the possibility of personal responsibility, their opinions can change quickly.

In addition, I don’t know if JavaScript can match the inter-application capabilities of AppleScript. I believe it can’t, but I’m not an expert on JS.

If your management wants to have their new JS-based solutions cross-platform, then it’s highly unlikely that this can be fully achieved. The functionality of the scripts will have to be degraded to remain fully cross-platform.

If they want to switch completely to PC, then they’ll probably need to look into Visual Basic rather than JavaScript to better match the AppleScript capabilities (although that’s just my guess, can’t vouch for this).

Leo, you’re awesome! You always provide such useful information, and I’m truly grateful for it. I really appreciate your help—once again, thank you!
-Jeff

I’ve been retired 2 years now, when I was still in the workforce when we were making Mac vs PC choices we referred to a few articles with data showing that life cycle support costs for Mac OS computers were lower than life cycle support costs for Windows OS computers.
We had an environment with many Windows computers and a few Macs.

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Glad I could help - thanks for the kind words!

Hope you’ll be successful in preserving your existing AppleScript workflows.